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Discipline and the Raise Responsibility System

Jamie Turner of Fair Haven, New Jersey, forwarded me information about her school’s website. I share it with you below.

SICKLES SCHOOL RAISE RESPONSIBILITY SYSTEM

What is the Raise Responsibility System? Marvin Marshall’s Raise Responsibility System was designed in order to promote responsible behavior within the school  community. This simple system focuses on promoting the internalization of responsibility rather than on only promoting external obedience. The foundation of this system is the Hierarchy of Social Development, which supports students in learning how to make responsible choices.

Why are we implementing this system? As a teaching and learning community, there was a  consensus among our staff that we needed to find a better way to help students make independent choices in their behavior.  We found it to be a simple, yet highly effective way to help students learn to make responsible choices.

How can I find out more information? Please visit Marvin Marshall’s website at www.marvinmarshall.com for more information.

Jamie Turner, Principal
Sickles School
Fair Haven, New Jersey

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Jamie’s letter prompted me to add a new link to my website  entitled, “What People Say.” You can scroll through its contents at testimonials.

Discipine Without Stress and Social Studies

“I am teaching a graduate course in social studies.

I have experienced teachers and they are loving your book – absolutely loving it. Of course, with grad students the perspective is different. They know a truly good thing when they see it when it comes to practical ideas in the classroom. You can’t fool them.”

Dr. Suzie McBride
California State Polytechnic University
San Luis Obispo, California

Discipline and Alarm Clock

The following is from a  communication to me about self-discipline:

I added "Bugging" and "Breaks classroom procedures" to Level B. I also added "A piling on" to Level A because I use a football analogy. Some students choose to tease other students. This is hurtful behavior.

I explain to my students that in order to learn, they must: 1) follow classroom procedures and 2) meet behavior standards.

I use the levels to teach the importance of establishing a procedure each morning to get to school on time. I give an alarm clock analogy:
—Level D – You set your alarm clock, wake up, and get to school on time.
—Level C – You depend on your parents to wake you up and get to school on time.
—Level A/B – You hurt yourself by ignoring your alarm clock and come to school late.

Your approach really clarifies the concepts of internal and external motivation. It applies to adults, too. It goes way beyond the classroom. I tell my high school students that to succeed in college, they must have motivation on Level D. Their motivation must come from within.

Thanks again,

Jim Mann

Influencing A Youngster to Start Kindergarten

The young boy was to start kindergarten the next day and was protesting that he would not go. This could be a real discipline challenge.

A normal reaction would have been to banish the youngster to his room and tell him that he had better make up his mind to go because he had no choice. (Note: the youngster may have had no choice as to the decision but certainly had a choice as to how he could respond to it.)

Rather than taking this approach, the father reflected, "If I were my son, why would I be excited to go to kindergarten?"

The father and his wife made a list of all the fun things the child would do—such as finger painting, singing songs, and making new friends. Then they decided to do some finger-painting themselves. The youngster saw the fun his parents were having and wanted to join in. "Oh, no! You have to go to kindergarten first to learn how to finger-paint," remarked the mother.

Then the parents shared with their son the other fun activities they had listed.

The next morning as the father passed the living room to go into the kitchen, he saw his son asleep on the sofa. "What are you doing here?" he asked.

The son responded, "I'm waiting to go to kindergarten, and I don't want to be late."

Asking, "How can I influence the person to WANT to do what I would like the person to do?" is a hallmark of successful parents, teachers, and leaders—and is a key to self-discipline.

A Key Concept

Assume everything you say about another person can be overheard by that person.

Influence by What the Other Person Wants

The most effective approach to influence others is to consider what they want.

For example, one day Ralph Waldo Emerson and his son tried to get a calf into a barn. Unfortunately, they made the common mistake of thinking of only what they wanted. Emerson pushed and his son pulled, but the calf was doing just what they were doing. It was thinking only of what it wanted, so it stiffened its legs and stubbornly refused to leave the pasture. The housemaid saw their predicament. Although she couldn’t write essays and books, on this occasion she had more horse sense, or calf sense, than Emerson had.

She thought of what the calf wanted, so she put her maternal finger in the calf’s mouth and let the calf suck her finger as she gently led him into the barn.

You do things because of what you want—whether it be referred to as a need, a desire, or a craving. This even applies to giving a contribution. If you hadn’t wanted the feeling of helping more than your money, you would not have made the contribution. (Of course, you might have made the contribution because you were ashamed to refuse or someone asked you to do it.) But one thing is certain. You made the decision because you wanted something.

The same reasoning holds true in learning and in discipline.

Choice: The Foundation of Values

The following is from a personal communication from Nancy Snow, District Guidance Officer, Newcastle, New South Wales, Australia:

“Choice is the basic ingredient for the promotion of
prosocial values. If we want kids to be caring, kind, and
generous, we have to have them become aware of choices.
You cannot mandate responsibility, persistence,
consideration, honesty, or integrity. These values are
chosen; therefore, the concept of choice is essential to
the teaching and learning of values.”

Young people will choose these values and become more self-disciplined when  (1) positive benefits are explored, (2) they are prompted to reflect on their choices, and (3) influence—rather than coercion—is used.

DWS and Australia

I had the pleasure of  presenting in the Gold Coast, Sydney, Newcastle, and Adelaide, Australia hosted by Judy Hatswell, a senior faculty Member of the William Glasser Institute of Australia.

While being hosted by Judy and her husband, Gerry, a retired school principal, I was admiring their various collections when I read a postcard sent to Judy by one of her clients. I share it with you:

Happiness is not a state to arrive at
but a manner of traveling.

The William Glasser approach of noncoercion and taking responsibility for one’s actions is growing in popularity across the country/continent. Partial credit toward a masters degree is being planned at the Gold Coast campus of Griffith University for those who have had William Glasser training.

If you look at the north western part of Australia, you can see how it was at one time connected to Indonesia and how Tasmania was part of Australia millions of years ago. Most of the continent receives less than 10 inches of rain each year. Eighty percent of the 20 million human residents reside around the southeast coastline.

The population around Sydney, which has one of the most spectacular harbors in the world, is four million—not counting the kangaroos, wallabies, pandas, wombats, ibises, and emus.

The following few items may be of interest to educators.

The following is from the Australian Government’s National Framework for Values Education in Australian Schools:

— Education is as much about building character as it is  about equipping students with specific skills.

—Values based education can strengthen students self- esteem, optimism and commitment to personal fulfillment;  and help students exercise ethical judgment  and social responsibility.

The first issue listed in Australian Government’s National Safe Schools Framework is bullying. Harassment, violence, and child protection are then listed in that order. The Discipline Without Stress directly addresses the first three issues.

A Comment from An Elementary School Prinicipal

“This should be a required course of study in every collegiate education major curriculum.”

Al Herring, Principal
Plain Dealing Elementary School, Plain Dealing, LA

Check out the Discipline Without Stress Teaching Model at http://www.marvinmarshall.com/

The Effectiveness of Asking Questions

QUESTION:

I am starting DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS next week. I have the DCBA poster on the wall. But what I need is a list of verbal prompts for me to post, such as “Oops, what shall we do now?” Otherwise, it’s easy to fall back into old patterns of telling—instead of asking—or imposing, instead of eliciting a solution. Anybody have such a thing? I am so excited to try this—but nervous, too.

RESPONSE:

From a post by Kerry:

One of the most challenging things about moving to DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS is remembering to use the three principles of being positive, asking (rather than telling), and empowering by giving choices.

It doesn’t happen overnight, and I don’t think anyone will tell you that you can be an expert when firs starting. We’re all struggling to change previous mindsets, to pause before we blurt out automatic phrases that are negative, to get rid of those “old teacher stares,” and to be proactive instead of reactive. It’s not easy, so just try to take the pressure off yourself by not expecting perfection. That route leads to discouragement.

Instead, just set little goals for yourself. For instance, try for an hour to always respond with a question instead of telling students things. Whenever someone in your class wants to know something, or you want to tell them something, or whenever someone asks you something, see if you can respond with a question.

For example, if a child says, “I found this staple on the floor, what should I do with it?” Ask… “Oh, where would that go?” Or if someone leaves their shoes on the floor of the cloakroom, bring the child over and ask, “Do you see anything that you might need to do here?” Or if someone asks to go for a drink right after recess time, ask, “Is this the time for us to get drinks? When was the time for drinks?”

Try to build choice into the day. This gets you into the habit of using choices so that it will come more naturally during discipline situations. Besides, giving choices to students on a regular basis makes the day more interesting for them. By engaging them through the power of making little decisions, they become more interested in being in the classroom. When they are focused on doing constructive things, misbehaviour is less of an issue. Because they are focused on making choices instead of focused on, “I really don’t want to do this,” life will be smoother for you. My partner, Darlene, is really a master at this. She’s always finding ways to build some choice for the kids into every activity.

For instance, on the morning when it was time to make a cover for a bee report that each child had made step by step in class, she put three colours of poster board up on the chalkboard for the kids to indicate which colour they wanted. She put a question above it asking, “Which colour do you want for your cover?” The kids put up their graphing marker (just a name tag with a magnetic strip on the back). At lunch she cut the covers according to their preferences and after lunch they made the cover. By giving them that little choice in the morning, they were already primed to be interested in the afternoon because they had some personal investment in that cover. In the past, we would have had cut all the covers in just one colour. You’d be surprised how giving them such a little bit of power, focuses them on WANTING to do a project.

When we did a dragons and castles unit, she had them make dragons in a particular art style. In order to introduce some measure of choice, she had them each decide if they would make and then write about a dragon from the Eastern tradition (from Asia) or from the western tradition. In the past, she would have decided which type of dragon everyone would focus on. One day everyone would have done an Eastern dragon and the next day everyone would do a Western dragon.

Because of the understandings we’re gaining from DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS, this year she discussed both types first and then offered choices. She mentioned to me how much more the kids were interested in the whole assignment than in previous years and how excited they were by their being able to choose one kind of dragon or the other. Our reluctant writers were re-directed from their usual reluctance toward writing. Instead of focusing on, “I can’t write” or  “I don’t want to write,” they were busy choosing which dragon they cared to write about. Building in little choices engages students. Darlene always asks herself in EVERY SINGLE LESSON now, “How can I give them some little choice?” It’s really kind of amazing. It just takes a little conscious decision to think about giving choices when planning lessons.

Saying things in a positive way IS a challenge! This requires discipline on the teacher’s part, especially if you’re finding that you have a lot of negative responses from the past glued in your brain!  Make use of Marv’s impulse chart YOURSELF:
http://www.marvinmarshall.com/impulsemanagement.html.

Before you respond in any way… take a breath and THINK first. It isn’t easy at first, but it does come more naturally once you force yourself to practice. For me personally, this is the hardest of the three principles. Once again, set yourself a small goal. Can I go for 30 minutes and respond with positivity to everything that happens (even negative things)? Taking the pause to consider what you’re going to say is the key!

A long time ago, I posted some questions that we have found successful with various kids along the way during the “Checking for Understanding Phase” of DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS. They are reposted here, in case they’re useful to you:

Some reflective questions that we find work for us:

–Is this going to get you what you want?
–Is this going to move you forward or backward?
–What can I do to help you?
–Are you going to let this (situation, person, problem, setback, disappointment etc.) hold you back?
–Are you going to be able to rise above this_______  (situation,  disappointment, etc.)?
–Look at _______’s face. How is he/she feeling right now as a result of (what you have done/said)?
–Are you making a friend or pushing a friend away?
–What would a ________ (mature, kind, reliable, responsible, extraordinary) person do now?
–Now that you’ve __________, how can you repair the situation?
–Think, when you _____________what kind of a relationship  are you creating with ________
(me? the Noon Hour Supervisor? other kids? the adults in the school?)
–What kind of impression are you making on all the people here when you _______? Is this the impression you want to make?
–Can you picture yourself doing_______(a very specific procedure)?
–When you __________what pictures are you creating about yourself in the mind of your (friends? teachers? adults in our school?)
–Is what you’re doing going to make you happy in the long run? Is there a happier choice?
–Here’s an opportunity for you to _____________(act on a high level, try a new challenge, be a kind friend, show some initiative, etc.).
–If you continue down this path of doing what you’re doing, what will likely happen/result?
–Does it feel as if we’re moving forward here, or does if feel as if we’re stuck? What would you have to do if you wanted to move forward in this situation?
–Would you be willing to try that again at a higher level?
–Would you like another opportunity to do that again at a higher level?
–Would you be kind enough to allow ________the opportunity to try that again at a higher level?
–Is what you’re doing __________(safe? on a high level? kind? appropriate? helpful? respectful?)
–How might you feel if someone else did that to you?
–Who do you want to be in charge of you or have someone else boss you?
–Who do you want to be your boss?
–Think to yourself of someone in our class who generally operates on a very high level. What would that person do now in your situation?
–When a child is ready to give up too soon: If you feel you can’t do any more right now, when can you
plan to do it?

After someone has acknowledged Level B behaviour:
–Do you want me to be a Level B teacher?
–What would a Level B teacher probably do now?-
–Is this what you would like me to do?
–What can you do so that I don’t have to be a Level B teacher?

MM’s comment:

Focusing on obedience aims at physical and superficial aspects of behavior. In contrast, DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS aims at the brain’s cognition—which, in turn, prompts emotion and empowerment. For example, someone compliments you and a positive feeling follows. In contrast, when someone blames, criticizes, complains, nags, threatens, or punishes you, a negative feeling erupts.

Empowerment has a positive effect and can create commitment whereas obedience rarely creates commitment. It is a simple fact of life that OBEDIENCE DOES NOT CREATE DESIRE.

DISCIPLINE WITHOUT STRESS actuates people to WANT to behave appropriately and WANT to put forward effort to learn.

More of Kerry’s posts are available at DisciplineAnswers.com.